My Body Led the Lesson | Ep. 2

Books and business strategist Amber Vilhauer shares the powerful moment her body led her to create a new framework for alignment. In this conversation, Amber explains how listening to intuition, understanding unmet needs, and serving the right person can transform both business and personal life. She dives into the “Foundational Four” alignment framework and reveals how true success comes from reconnecting with yourself.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to the Wisdom From Within podcast. My name is Jen Axe, and I am your host. This is where mindset meets body set, where we access both so that we can make the most genuine, authentic, empowered impact on those we love and those we serve. Let's get started. I am so, so, so excited to be here with you today and have my listeners experience you and the world experience you. Your work is so amazing. So we'll start with just a short intro. So Amber is a books and business strategist, multi-best selling author, speaker, and founder of NGNG Enterprises, No Guts, No Glory. She's the author of Infinite Impact, the Entrepreneur's Strategic Guide to Book and Books and Business Success. And she's the Infinite Impact series, Stories of Alignment, and co-author of The Long Forest Trail with her son Clay. Okay, that's like a ton. Did I swatch it up?

SPEAKER_02 1:17

No, you did great. Thank you. I know it's a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

It is a lot. Well, you've done a lot in your life, and so much has led you here. And I'll just say that, you know, from the moment I met you, we talk about this all the time. I just felt such a deep connection to you. And you not just your work, but your soul and your heart and your passion and your commitment to people, to humanity. And your work is so much more than books, right? And it is it is it's so beautiful and so speaks my language, and it's all about alignment and body wisdom and everything. And so I really want you to share, you know, the core of your work that speaks so beautifully to me on every single level, and everyone you work with is this commitment to alignment and what that means. And I think it would be beautiful to start with just what does that mean to you? Yeah. Yeah. And why does it matter? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

Well, it's kind of like an interesting journey because back in 2006, just before I created NGNG, I had no desire or intention to be an entrepreneur. I had no formal business training. Um, I it was literally a time where I had some access through an event um to the online world and some of the gurus that were doing internet marketing. And I just thought, well, this is really interesting and I love a good challenge. So I taught myself code and I built my own little blog and I started blogging about the things that I was learning about, like SEO and persuasive copywriting and ad words and social media. And um then somebody came to me from Canada and said, Can you help me build a website called Conscious Divas? And I said, Me? Like, I guess, but I mean, all the stress, Jen. I'm like, what do I charge? How do I do this? Like, is this for real? Like, you know, all of my self-worth issues came up because I was a deeply insecure person back then. Um, and then, you know, all of a sudden, the way that websites found me, books found me. And um, I had a publisher out in California ask if she could hire me and pay me to teach me how to launch books so I could do it for her authors. And I actually said no for about four months, but she kept coming after me and I said, fine, teach me about books, like what? Right. And then my my website and an author clients would say, like, can you teach me marketing? Can you teach me how to sell? Can you teach so over the years, NGNG just grew. And um, by the time we were in, let's say 2022, I had about 175 active clients at a time. I'm managing a team of almost 40 people, and we were known as book launch experts, probably first. But at that point, I'd made about a thousand authors, number one bestsellers, and then we had launched at that point over a thousand websites, and you know, it was pretty successful little business, and it was really you know impactful for me until everything changed. Okay, oh my gosh. So in December of um 2024, 2023, excuse me, this was right after my son uh wanted to launch his children's book, The Long Forest Trail, as a then just turning seven-year-old. So he was a best-selling author before I was, which is kind of funny. But then that, you know, about a month later, I get this calling for my body. And the the message was it's time to write the book. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like I'll I'll write the book someday, but this isn't a good time. Like, you know, you make all of the things about what your plans were gonna be. This is how this is what I want to do. And then life has other plans for you. So I was sitting down at my computer and I had writer's block. And I thought, ah, it's just like, I don't want to write a book about how to launch your book, you know. Like I it feels like not what I'm into right now because I had just done this two-year, very deep dive into psychology and my subconscious and inner child work, and that's really the mode I was in. So it just felt like I was disinterested in writing a book about how to launch a book, but that's what my business was about. And so as I was facing this resistance, Jen, I said, okay, I know resistance now. What is it trying to communicate? And I said, out of the thousands of authors that I've spoken to and worked with over the years, what did they all have in common? Instantly, my body said they were all out of alignment. And I thought, out of alignment, what does that even mean? Like, I said, I don't even know if I've ever spoken those words before. And the body said, teach them alignment. And I'm like, well, I don't even know what that means. So you're gonna have to help me out here. I mean, I I really, Jen, back then, I just felt like I was crazy, even though I listened to my intuition. I have a very strong relationship with it. But this still just felt like beyond what I was capable of in that moment. And so I looked back and I recognized that all of my clients had resistance to marketing and visibility and launching their book. And I thought, well, what do I do to help them overcome that? Oh, well, I teach them this avatar exercise that I learned a million years ago. And by helping my authors come up with one individual that's a representative of the collective that they are uniquely designed to impact. Then all of a sudden, like, I could do a video for one person. You know, I could write my book for one person, I could send this email out to one person. That's easy, Amber. And I thought, well, maybe there's something to that. And then I had to explore the rest of the framework, which we can dig into. But in short, getting into alignment by now what I have known the work to be. It means choosing to live in line with your deepest values, beliefs, and needs. And most people don't know what it is that they actually need. So we walk around, Jen, just feeling like we have these blind spots. Something keeps showing up in my relationships or my friendships or financially or in my health or in my business. And so this process of knowing your alignment can help you to meet your own needs, to understand your values, these decision-making filters, and to show up in the world with wholeness. Because when you show up in the world with wholeness, you're shining your light, you're in your body fully, you're not feeling frustration and fear and despair and anger and shame and guilt and all of these lower level feelings. You're just showing up as your highest and best self. And don't you want that for your life? Like every single day. So alignment's uh actually pretty important. That's what we wrote the book about.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

I mean, wow, there's so many things that you said. It's it's so incredible and so exactly right. I mean, it makes sense. I'm curious. There's a couple questions that I have that just came up, but I'm curious, do you find that the people that you help get into alignment when they find that person that they're serving, is it a reflection of themselves? 100%.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

And I don't tell them that immediately because some people um are just not ready to do the inner work.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

Right.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

And it's it's scary to them because of whatever somebody else said. It's actually not scary to go in there, but we've been sort of conditioned otherwise to want external things and accomplishments and money and cars and stuff. So I mean, there has been this cultural conditioning to seek solutions out there. But I'm really happy that we're in a time where now my work is getting out, your work is getting out, other people's work is getting out. Thing, no, no, the answers are in there. So I'm still careful and I meet people where they are with it because I don't just do this work with entrepreneurs.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

Right.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

You know, I might have a housewife who's just feeling like, gosh, this is I'm frustrated. I feel like something is off. I feel like I'm destined for more, but I don't know what that means. I don't know how to access it. So they get into alignment and they're coming up with a representative of this collective that they can positively influence, whether that's like she walks into the barista at the Starbucks, then she can positively influence that person or what have you. So this is for individuals as much as it can be for entrepreneurs. But once you see it, you can't unsee it. And it is a true doorway into you because a lot of times it just makes sense the people that you're uniquely designed to impact are people who are going through what you've already been through. You know, uh those stretching pains, the growth pains, the self-worth, the validation, the self-love, the self-trust. Like, you know, at a certain point, maybe you've been further down the road than the people before you. And there's so many people in humanity that need help right now, Jen. It's like it's never been more difficult out there. So I'm hoping that people just take a chance and see what this get into alignment thing is all about. It's actually pretty fun, it's fast, it's easy. Um, you'll learn so much about yourself, even if you're embarking on the journey for business purposes, let's say, to make sure that your marketing is actually successful in today's marketplace.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

What's so fascinating about this is that it really feels it's almost like business strategy, but therapy as well. It's like this healing that and listen, I went through the alignment process and I had that aha where I was like, oh my God, it's me. Right? Like please, so great. I mean, I know you can't do this because it's like, you know, it's not appropriate. But I could see this is what I saw in my head, like the boxes of hundreds of them. It's me, oh my god, it's me, oh my god, it's me, of you, because I could see that just that moment is probably so present in your alignment strategy sessions. And I think it's so beautiful because it's really an approachable way when we're talking about it from like a third standpoint. It's an approachable way to heal our own selves in with such delicacy, right?

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

Because we're we're thinking we're creating this avatar to serve what really we're pouring into ourselves without feeling defensive or guarded because we don't really realize that at first.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

Yeah, it's so interesting because when I created Heather, my avatar, um, back when I was 26, 27 years old, I actually had a business consultant that I'd hired and he put me through a 15-hour session. So he flew out to my home and I was exhausted. We went through every aspect of my life and business. And it wasn't until like one or two in the morning after I was just smashed. I was so exhausted. That's when he says, Okay, we're gonna make an avatar for you. And I'm like, What's an avatar? And he had a different, yeah, he had a different approach to it. Um, and I've since sort of iterated on it. But I was back then where it was like I couldn't overthink it because he had just broken my brain down throughout the day by design, right? So that I didn't have a defense system and I could just come out with what wanted to emerge, and that was Heather. And Heather was a stay-at-home mom, she had two young kids, and she was starting um at one point to just feel like not good about herself. And, you know, she thought, I have got to do something. So she decides to start working out and she does yoga and she finds inspiration about that. She starts eating better, she starts feeling better in her body. She starts a little blog to hope other moms, you know, can start to feel good about themselves too. And she tries a little subscription plan. But it's so interesting because she loves the writing, she loves like helping people, but the business side, she just implodes. It's so hard for her. She gets frustrated, she beats herself up all the time. And I I imagined this whole day in the life of Heather, even where in the afternoon, after she picks up her kid from the school, you know, the younger girl is on the floor playing with her doll and chat, chatty, chatty, chatty to mom. And mom is there folding towels, and in her head, she's so exhausted and so defeated. She's shaming herself that she didn't make more progress at work. She's behind, you know, on dinner. Her husband just texted, he's gonna be late. She's holding the weight of the world. And I didn't know anything about motherhood back then. I was 26. Um, but this was the character that emerged. And I started doing my entire business development only for Heather. Every email, every speech, every every video, every business decision, I only did it for Heather. And I just watched as my company grew and grew and grew and grew, even though I had no experience running a business at all. But what was crazy about this, Jen, is when I was about 38, 39, Heather's age. Um, and this is the loop that I certainly didn't anticipate, but all of a sudden I stepped into the role of motherhood. And I was, you know, uh, I was married, and now I had this toddler and I was trying to run this business, and I'm sitting there later on, you know, folding towels, and there's clay, and I'm in my head, and I was like, whoa, like I am Heather. Oh my god, I created her back then. I mean, it just blew my mind, Jen. And so it's interesting because your avatar has a whole lifeline, and so no matter where you start, you can move around to the different stages of her life and see it through a completely different lens, but you're still like that's your person moving forward. And so, even at that time, I was able to get wisdom from her, which was really inside of my own self, right? But wisdom thinking about like, how would I advise Heather in this moment to regain control and pay attention to her kid and to not beat herself up? Like, what would it look like for her to be free from that trapped pattern? Um, and that actually that introspective question looking at her helped me to solve it for myself back then. I mean, it was just we're getting pretty deep into psychology, but like it it is unlike therapy, which I strongly advocate for, it's a window into yourself, and it's so much easier to help somebody else, right? It's easier to guide them as opposed to like want to look around and muck around in there. Um, so there's a lot of different applications for it, and it doesn't mean that you have to bulldoze your life, it's just more of like developing almost a love affair with yourself. It's like you start to just nurture and love and trust yourself, and all of a sudden, all of the stuff you've been, you know, clawing after in the external world, like that just disappears because you don't really want for much anymore because you just feel whole inside, so you can be present and just really enjoy the moment that's unfolding in front of you. You know, it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

Who doesn't want this, right? It's like it's such a framework that you've created is so beautiful, and it's really this reunion and deep, deep understanding with self. I find I just love it so much, and it is deeply psychological. And you went, you were saying that you did all of these courses, which I also find very interesting. Like everything adds up, everything sort of stacks on itself for your life journey and how you got to this work because you said you were doing all of these courses and this inner child work and everything, and then this kind of evolved. I have a question. When when you find people get into alignment, right, and they have their avatar and they're serving their avatar, which is really serving themselves, how often through the journey do they have to like come back to your foundational for, which we should talk about just a little bit, you know, like how are they always reminded through the process about themselves? It sounds like you like you had that, oh my God, it's me when you were 39. I just wonder what how the relationship shifts and evolves in your experience with yourself and with your clients throughout the journey of a few years, you know.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

Sure. So a few things there. The foundational four framework. Um, number one, it starts with avatar, finding the one person. Right. And it is very intuitively led. So the fact that you're following Jen tells me that this is going to be easy, easy, easy for you. Um, so your avatar appears. Then inside of a 20-minute visualization that I can do, I do group sessions. We actually have one starting tomorrow for anybody that wants to be a part of that experience for free. Um, I also have a group of certified alignment guides that can take you through this visualization in one session too, but it's 20 minutes and it helps you see your avatar, create a vision, and understand your why. These are common business pillars that I just turned into a process that can be widely applicable, right? So the vision, as it's taught in business, it's like, what are you reaching toward? And it's like, I want to help 10 million people grow brand, successful brands online or whatever. But a lot of business owners can't actually ground into that because it's like so high in the sky, it's so far, they never know if they hit it. So I propose that your vision is something that can be achievable in any moment every day. So my vision is to help the individual in front of me feel heard, seen, and valued. That's it. If I can do that, oh, for sure I'm gonna hit the 10 million number and all the other things will come as a result of it, right? So we identify your real vision of how you want to interact with individuals around you. This impacts how you parent your spouse if you have one, friends, clients, the world at large. It it you'll find so much more harmony in your relationships, it'll blow your mind. Why? Usually for an entrepreneur, it's like, well, because I want to help people, which is great. I love your heart of service, but why do you want to help people? There is a need inside of you that is simply unmet. We call it an unmet need, and it is buried in you, and it was formed usually in like childhood, adolescent years, and that need okay, created a belief. And this belief is how you operate in the world because the belief fires off these emotions, which fires off your thinking brain that's trying to problem solve it, which creates these actions, which creates these outcomes. And you don't have to really understand all of that right now, but just to say this visualization drops you into your primary unmet need. And sometimes, Jen, it's love or validation or security or empowerment, minds freedom, which was a surprise to me because I'm like, I am free in the world. Why would that come up for me? And all of a sudden, when I did the work outside of alignment, because I was curious, yeah, I remembered back to when I was like six, seven years old feeling trapped in my bedroom. And my sister, who was older, didn't like me very much, a lot of door slams, but I think she just resented having to take care of me because my single mom was gone all the time. And I felt trapped in this environment of abandonment and um feeling like nobody wanted me and I was so young. And I certainly didn't want to use my voice because I also learned as a kid that it was safer to be invisible. There was a time when I was 16 where I used my voice for really the first time to share my truth. And I was bullied a lot in high school. And for whatever reason, sharing this truth was enough to get me jumped by six girls at a party that was made up for me. And I talk about it in the book. So I just developed these things of like, don't talk, you know, don't share your truth. I felt trapped in that too. So it would make sense that my whole life has been on this search for freedom. Um, it even interacted with my decision to separate from my marriage and to move and to create distance with family members that were not healthy for me. And it really um has revealed to me so much about oh, I just needed to feel free inside. So this alignment, this this uh foundational for framework, avatar vision, why is the unmet need. So if I can move out into the world, and let's say, Jen, you're my heather, which you're so my heather, uh what I would do is I would really focus every interaction with you on just helping you feel heard, seen, and valued. Because what happens is when when Jen feels heard, seen, and valued, it meets her need for freedom. And when when Jen's needs are being met, she's like a little light bulb. I mean, it's amazing when her needs are met, and she then shows up powerfully in the world. Well, me is the one that emoted that and helped her to achieve that. Oh my gosh, what it does in return for me is I'm like, I feel so free in the world in this moment. Like I could do literally anything. So now Jen and I have this incredible relationship of mutual reciprocation. We're giving and receiving, and it just keeps elevating to the point where like, I feel like we could power a third world country with our energy, Jen. Um, and that's kind of the power of alignment, and it doesn't have to be in a client capacity. Imagine this with your child, your best friend, you know, or your spouse. I mean, it's just that energy um acceleration. The last part of the foundational four framework is core values, and I don't mean to poo-poo that, but it's if if avatar vision and why is how you get into alignment, values is how you stay in alignment, it becomes your guardrails. So the evolution to end here with your question, I'm gonna keep giving you a lot of information and answers, is that once you see your alignment, you can unsee it. So when people keep coming back for more, like tomorrow, when I kick off my group alignment program, we'll have people in that room that have gotten into alignment, done this visualization 12 times. Why would they do that? They see the same avatar every single time. But what happens is they go deeper into their own unmet need and they see different applications for it based on whatever is happening in their lives in that moment. It's like this gift that just keeps giving to you and keeps healing and creating clarity and empowerment. The more you do it, just the more bliss you get to experience with it.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

Yeah. Oh my gosh. Thank you for sharing all of that. I mean, your story and as a child and that informing this work so incredibly powerful and vulnerable. And I appreciate you for bringing that into this conversation. Um, I also am feeling, you know, as you're talking and sharing, obviously, everyone that's listening to can feel, I would imagine, your energy, right? You are so passionate about this work. And what I keep hearing is it's because you birthed it, like it came from your soul. You did this work. And I just think it's a real testament to why it's so important. Like, here's an example of what happens when you listen and listen your body. Yeah. When you follow and you follow the guidance, look what happens. You heal and create something for the world that is so incredibly beautiful, and you feel your passion because you've been there. So I just I well, you created it's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

I mean, I've never felt more free in my entire life. And, you know, we were out to dinner uh less than two weeks ago, and I was sharing with you that I have not been in a relationship since I separated from my husband almost five years ago. And when I hear that out loud, I'm like, oh, but that's my cultural conditioning speaking. Like, oh, you gotta get married, you gotta have a relationship, you know. And so, and I'm not knocking relationships, but I'm saying, like, the my truest self is like, I am in such bliss, finally feeling free in my own body that like I can't even imagine any higher feeling than this right now. And I kind of just want to swim in it for a while and just because it's true, like I'm not afraid to say what's in my heart to say. I'm not afraid to show my awkward, quirky whatever side. I'm not afraid to be too much anymore because I was for a long time. I don't feel subservient anymore. I don't have let other people have power over me anymore. And these are very real parts of my past. Um yeah. So it's just, it's, it's really remarkable what it can keep giving to you. And now thousands of people have gotten into alignment just in the last over year, year and a half, Jen. And I mean, it was so powerful that people wanted to get certified in the work and then do this for their clients. And then we did the stories of alignment, the anthology book on September 9th of these powerhouse leaders who got into alignment and just it opened up their whole world. So, I mean, um, it's awesome. And what I feel like my day job is still is like I'm still doing branding, I'm helping entrepreneurs create an aligned business and use this as a tool to leverage in their marketing so that they can amplify their authentic voice. And and the real work is that when you are when you get right with you, anytime you're speaking, anytime you're expressing, anytime you're just sitting in silence in a room, people can feel the difference. Yeah, and it's that feeling that draws your right people in. Those are like people just like you, right? Birds of a feather uh flock together. And so all of a sudden, all of these people, you don't even have to understand how it works because I don't, but it's like there's just this constant flow of people that I feel so like deeply aligned with. They just keep coming and coming and coming. And I just have to sit here thinking, this is the most magical experience. I never in a million of years could have imagined that it could be this good and sacred and pure and natural. Uh, but hey, this is what we do. So it begins with alignment, and then a lot of entrepreneurs will use that to grow a very aligned business that just is very generative for them.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

I love all of that. I have a question about um, we have a couple minutes left, so I'd love to just quickly talk about this. You mentioned earlier about, you know, your body told you and you have strong intuition. And so if we like rewound, rewound is out of the word, all the way back. Like for people, there's a lot of people that don't know this is the outcome, everything you have. And at the beginning, when people are like, I want that, I want that energy, I want to create that impact, I want to write those books, I want to do all of that. She followed her instincts, her body told her, What did that mean? What does that mean? How did you hear it?

SPEAKER_02 30:02

So there are these different voices inside of us, and that doesn't have to make you feel like a crazy person, it's just true. And there are a lot of people that used to say this is just woo and weird, and it's like, okay, now we're seeing this is evidence, there's science backed, like this is real. So it's it's actually not that that woo. Um, but uh the way, easiest way that I like to describe it is imagine you're driving down the road and you know, you take a left turn, and there's this instinct, this voice that says, I think I was supposed to take a right back there. That is not your thinking brain, because your thinking brain needs to collect evidence to come to a conclusion. There is no evidence that you were supposed to take a right back there, right? It was just a feeling that you had. That's the feeling of your intuition, that's the voice of your intuition. So that's the one that I have learned to listen to and prioritize no matter what. Even in a moment of pressure, when it's like, it's time to write the book. I'm like, I don't want to write the book. Well, you're gonna write the book. I'm like, okay, I'm writing the book because the this voice told me to write the book, so I'll write the book. And it's always speaking to me, Jen. And and I have honestly listened to this intuition for a very long time. And sometimes I ignore it and get a slap, and I'm like, okay, yep, should have listened to the intuition. Um, but my thinking brain is trying to keep me safe. Yeah, so it's like, oh, don't use your voice, Amber, because the last time you used your voice, you got jumped at a party. So you should just be really an introvert, you should be invisible in the world. We can't do that. They're danger, danger. Right. Your soul is like, go ahead, go. You're you have so much to offer to the world, right? And so, which one are you gonna listen to? And you know, Jen and I are saying, listen to your intuition because your life will be more magnificent than anything you could ever even imagine. You're just gonna have to trust it and experiment with it.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

Yeah, really quick, and we're then we're gonna wrap up. I'm sorry we're going over it. Just I want to talk quickly. The um just the uh it's interesting to me because you came from a place of not feeling seen, heard validated all of that, and then you came into it. So that bridge, and maybe we can come back on version two here with it. But if you have a second, if you don't, it's okay. I'm curious about you know how you trusted yourself to start listening, because you came from that place of like, wait, I have to close down this. You talked about the room and your sister and the the experience at the party, and then how to rebuild to then start listening to get on this journey, you know.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

That's a tough one because there was a part of me that built these walls so that nobody could access hurting this more deeper, vulnerable, innocent side inside of myself. Yeah, so I learned to maneuver by holding up these walls, and then I was a bit of a chameleon, which is hard to admit out loud, it was not a conscious manipulation, it was an unconscious survival instinct. Yeah, so I would have my walls up and then I would mirror you and it would work, and that's how I was successful in business. But it was interesting that I was seen as so confident and successful in business. But when I stepped out of my office, I was like this insecure wounded bird that was subservient to everybody around me. Yeah, and I kept wondering like, what's up with that? So strange, you know? So it was almost like I was living two sides of myself at any one time, where there was this um uh you know, protective instinct, and then there was the more natural me. It's like there was my brain versus my intuition, and it was just like always interweaving, it was so interconnected that I honestly I couldn't feel or sense the difference between the two. Right. So I did listen to my intuition in many cases, right? I just wasn't consciously aware of when I wasn't, and then I found myself in these weird experiences and circumstances that felt so misaligned. Now I can say that. Yeah, and it just created havoc in my life, but I didn't know what the root of it was. I didn't understand why I had so many, like so much incongruence in my life. And then I found um a I call him my consciousness coach because I don't there, you there's no way to label Dimitri, but he started to be the one to really mentor me and his 30 plus years of work on psychology and subconscious and inner child and all of these different things. And I got a masterclass from one of the top in the world in this work, and it was very confusing, but we had to unwind a lot of these stories. I found all sorts of beliefs that were outdated that I wouldn't choose them if I had the choice. I had to do a lot of rewiring, shift my perspective in the world. I mean, this was like two and a half years of deep work that I did.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

Um, and that's not what most people have to do. I had a lot of a fair amount of complex PTSD that I was carrying around underneath the castle walls.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:24

So there was more there for me to unpack than I think the average person needs to do. But even if you do have complex PTSD or some really deep trauma or you were raised by narcissists or whatever the situation is, I hope I can be a beacon of hope for you that you actually can reclaim. You really can live a life of purity that is by your design, not what others have put upon you. Love. It's emotional just even saying that. You know, it's it's that's the human experience. We want you to be free. That's that's the journey, it's the hero's journey.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 36:05

Hence the birds. Um, yes. I am so grateful for your time and thank you for going over. I know your time is very, very valuable, but this is so valuable to to me. I hope for you and to anyone. Absolutely. Please, please, like, oh my gosh, just you know, reach out to Amber. That's all I gotta say.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

Yeah, just just be in my world. There's a lot of incredible. My world is full of gens. So if you like gen, you're gonna like everybody in my community. We're we're a very aligned bunch and we're out to do good in the world and to be better for ourselves and those around us. And we can experience that a lot of different forms, whether it's alignment or book launches or websites or whatever it is. But um, you know, maybe start by following me on social media and reach out when you want to. I'm very easy to talk to. I will never make you feel like you're a number or that I'm rushed. I'm just going to be present with you.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

So, how can people find you? What's the best way?

SPEAKER_02 37:06

Well, I think I'm the only Amber Vilhauer in the world. The challenge more is that nobody knows how to say, spell, or remember that. Um, so good luck.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

Just right here on her list.

SPEAKER_02 37:19

It's right here on the screen. So just find them on every social network. And then if you Google me, you'll find I have four different websites. And we do have that alignment group coaching experience. It's four weeks, it kicks off tomorrow. Um, it's still available, it's free. So we can drop the link in chat or something so that you can get access to that. And like, let's just get you into alignment. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Oh my, let's go! Your body's speaking. I mean, how beautifully aligned is that, right? That's I mean, I just I love you. I adore you. I'm grateful to you. You've been a huge support guide in my life and will continue to be and friend now. And I just I'm so in, I just love everything that you're doing.

SPEAKER_02 38:01

So thank you for your we'll see you again on the 30th for Jan's best selling book launch party, baby. So I'll be back at least for a few minutes to visit with you then.

SPEAKER_01 38:12

Absolutely. Oh my god, perfect. All right, Amber. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Appreciate you. Bye. Appreciate you.